Houseboat Horror - Navigating the Humorous Horrors of a Cult Classic

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Pete: G'day and welcome to A Dingo Ate My Movie, a podcast

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where we talk about the weird and wonderful world of

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Australian film from the 70s, 80s and beyond.

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As always, I'm your host, pete, and today I'm joined by Matt

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Fulton to discuss what is considered the worst movie to

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come out of Australia, if you don't count the very excellent

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Mr Dundee Houseboat Horror from 1989.

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Here you go, matt.

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Matt: Oh good, how are you, pete ?

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I wouldn't really say that's like the worst movie.

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I'd say it's the best, worst Australian movie.

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Pete: Yeah, I think so too.

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It's actually I don't know if it's because I've watched it

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maybe three or four times in the last week or two I've kind of

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enjoyed it.

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It's definitely not as bad.

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Like I know, the blurb on the back of the umbrella release

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talks a lot about.

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They mentioned the room and I think they mentioned Bird Demek

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and a few of those other things.

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I don't think it's as bad as those.

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Matt: Well, the funny thing is, when I read that on the back of

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the cover, I thought wait a minute, are they rating my

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collection?

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Because I've got a copy of the room as well on my shelf.

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Pete: Yeah, I don't think it's as bad as what people think and

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it is a great bad movie, right?

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If you want to have a great bad movie, it's really good.

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I would like to watch this with like a bunch of mates.

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It would be really the best way to watch it.

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Matt: Oh, of course.

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And when I had my early passion for bad movies, some of my

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friends at the time just did not get it.

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And while I wasn't the cool one in school, I became even less

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cool.

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Pete: So they're going.

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What is this?

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Matt: Why are we watching this bad movie?

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For you don't get it.

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It's a piece of art.

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Pete: Exactly Someone else's art .

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So we just to give a bit of background to people, I don't go

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too deep into how we caught up and how we met up, but you and I

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have a mutual friend who's been on this show before, which is

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Jay, and we were catching up with Jay when he was in

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Australia recently and we were just talking about podcasts and

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I mentioned my podcast and you were like, oh, I know that

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podcast.

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And then we started talking about I think we're talking

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about houseboat horror as well.

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Matt: Yeah, the fact that I'm a long time listener, first time

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caller.

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And yeah it was just one was blown when.

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I'm going ah, this all makes sense now.

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I recognize the voices and they're just in.

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I put some thinking yeah, I'm going like I discovered your

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podcast by accident because, while I have podcasting

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experience the yeah, I was looking through again my passion

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for Ozploitation movies and Australian movies in general and

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I was searching.

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I'm going hmm, I really want to hear movie review about some

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Ozploitation classics or anything like that, because I'm

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probably doing those big blue cover releases and yeah search

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for it, and then I've gone.

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Oh, what's this?

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Dingo 8mo movie and yeah and it was great because I love long

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form type podcasting, because it was helped from travels to and

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from work.

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Pete: It's great for commutes, isn't it?

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That's why there's anything I miss about like working from

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home these days is I don't get to commute, so I don't get to

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listen to not that I miss the commute, mind you but I don't

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get to listen to stuff like podcasts quite as much, so I

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usually just put them on when I'm working, but then you can't

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really give them the full attention that you give them

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when you're commuting.

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But yeah, and I think, if I remember our conversation that

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day, you've got a bit of a history with this movie.

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Matt: It's not a direct connection or anything, but it's

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like a bit of a nerd best type discussion, kind of like what

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we're doing now.

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So it's me, but am I allowed to plug what I do as well?

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I'm not one person who does that.

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Pete: No, plugging is great.

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I mean, I don't have to pay you to come on the show, so I give

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you as many plugs as you can.

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Matt: Well, I'm a big Australian TV movie, especially when it

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comes to comedy, and I'm a big fan of the Vgen late show

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working dog team and spin offs and stuff like that, and I

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produce and co-host a recap podcast called the Champagne

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Comedy Podcast which is based all on working dog programs and

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degeneration and all that and myself and my co-hosts, which

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are spread all around Australia and overseas, we were doing

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recaps of the late show that was broadcast on ABC TV between

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1992 and 1993.

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And in season one was the episode of the late show where

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it was Tony Martin doing his segment on undiscovered

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masterpieces of the cinema and Houseboat Horror featured in it.

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And so anyone who watched the late show or all those jokes

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that go with it like I won't say anything because we will bring

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it up a bit later on in this episode, but it was nice

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features with it and if you're a fan of the late show, you

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became a fan of Houseboat Horror , all because it was so niche

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and so deliciously bad.

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It was good.

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And with that, with Houseboat Horror in the back of my mind,

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it wasn't until I was working in Canberra for a radio station

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down there and I owned a copy of Houseboat Horror on DVD, which

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I found funny enough at Paddy's Markets in the city at one time

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because we were walking through with my mate and I'm going oh,

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look at that Houseboat Horror, it's like $11 on DVD.

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I'll grab that.

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And my mates go why are you buying that?

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For I've never heard of that movie.

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And I went oh well, I'm going to have to get it now.

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So it's made your day so yeah, yeah, and it wasn't until there

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was a gig or a event that my work was at the time was

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promoting and I had a couple of Australian musicians in it.

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It was part of, like the APA told my life tour type thing,

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which, yeah, it's just a group of classic artists and one of

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them who was part of this tour was Brian Manix.

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And he had yeah, from Uncanny X-Men, and so he came in and I

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thought, oh, I better rush home because he's going to be a

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little bit, and I was only living five minutes away from

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work.

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I ran home, got the DVD, came back and got in the sign it and

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he just saw it and laughed at me and he go, really, really.

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And I went yes, please can you sign it.

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And he goes mate, this is the worst Australian movie ever.

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And he signed it in the sleep and yeah, I treasure that.

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And I was just so giddy that day and no one at work

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understood.

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And so Brian and I just shared a laugh or two about it all and

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told me the odd story he has.

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Now he embraced it not long after that.

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So it's like, yeah, fair enough , it's then cult classic, but

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yeah, so yeah, and so that's that little bit.

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And also I interviewed Gavin Wood, as part of my Champagne

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Comedy podcast as well, to talk about his experience on

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Houseboat Horror, which kind of reflects what's in the Blu-ray.

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Pete: He's like one of the high points of the film.

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Oh yeah, he's great.

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He's the best line.

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He's really good.

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Bar up, he's got the best lines .

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Speaker 4: Hey guys, girls, it's party time.

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Come up here.

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Gavin Wood: I refuse Magnificent , you'll bar up.

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Pete: The film crew shooting a music video traveled to Lake

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Infinity, where a vicious killer hunts them, and that's all it

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is.

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It's basically a Friday, the 13th ripoff.

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Matt: Yeah, you just know that with that concept of it all,

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it's going to be delightfully horrific.

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Pete: And it is, it is and the film stars.

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The film stars Alan Dale, who everyone knows from neighbors, I

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guess Christine Jensen, there's Animal McKenna.

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So Animal was like hey, hey, it's Saturday, sort of I don't

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know about royalty, but anyway he was, he was a big deal on hey

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, hey, it's Saturday for a while and John Michael Howzen and

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Gavin Wood and it was directed by well, it was initially

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directed by Ollie Martin, but there's a story about him after

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a couple of days going not directing anymore and it went

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over to Kendall Flanagan who apparently has directed quite a

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few things and TV shows and stuff like that, and Ollie

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Martin kind of just produced it.

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Matt: From that point on, yeah, Wasn't there one of them who was

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the one who had the heart attack?

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I think it was.

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Yeah, one of the producers had a heart attack in the middle of

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filming and couldn't continue on .

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Pete: Oh, I didn't.

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I can't remember that.

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I've listened to bits of the commentary, but not all of it.

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I don't remember that.

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And I'll watch some of the special features and there's

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lots of interesting stories and I know the most obvious one is

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nobody got paid.

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Matt: Oh, yeah, yeah, it is now the whole.

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If you don't get paid, you are at least I guess you can

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recuperate your losses by doing Q&As in the future Just hoping

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that the movie ends up being a cult classic.

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And yeah, that's a way of recuperating those losses.

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Pete: A lot of people.

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I think this is pretty con well , a lot of people consider this

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to be the worst Australian film ever made.

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Like I said at the top, I think you know the last Paul Hogan

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movie was probably pretty close to that, even though it was

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probably not an Australian movie , but we'll call it that anyway.

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The budget for the film has never been clearly stated.

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In the commentary I heard that it was estimated to be around

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225.

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But I don't see that reflected in what's on the screen.

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And the fact that they had a budget like that, no one got

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paid is well, I shouldn't say verging on criminal with clothes

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.

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Matt: Yeah, I was going to say that.

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Gavin Wood with the chat and I do apologize if I randomly bring

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that up and Tony, because that's the only direct resource

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that I've got, is that, yeah, a lot of the money came from the

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underground disco, which is mentioned a few times at the

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beginning of this movie, because they were pretty much the

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financial backers.

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Pete: Yeah, they mentioned the underground disco maybe four or

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five times in the movie.

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It's part of my drinking game from every letter.

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In 1990, the Queensland government banned this film

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under sections nine and 10 of the film review act which gave

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it that classic band in Queensland sticker and found

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actually a ideas letterbox.

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Matt: No, I'm aware of it.

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I've never used it, because letterbox is great.

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Pete: There's a user and they call Rod Williams I'll give him

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credit and he's got a letterbox list of once banned in

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Queensland, australia, and it goes through all these movies

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that were banned in Queensland and some of them are really

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obvious, like you would think.

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You know, like Houseboat Horror was one, they banned things

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like Dawn of the Dead and Silent Night, deadly Night, reanimate

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A Pieces.

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You know all the ones you would think of Mother's Day, friday

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13th, part Two.

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Surf Nazis Must Die.

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All this and I'm like, oh, there's almost a podcast in just

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going through those movies.

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Matt: Yeah, it sounds like it, doesn't it?

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It's like Queensland, what the hell you have no taste.

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Pete: Exactly, yeah, and the whole thing about the banning

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Queensland is a lot of VHS distributors.

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When this first, because my first memories of this movie was

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seeing the VHS box, I wish I'd actually got a copy of one.

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It would have been fantastic.

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But seeing the VHS box with the big banning Queensland sticker

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on it and at the time you know when you're looking in video

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shops there's quite a few movies where they actually a lot of

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distributors, went to the trouble of putting banning

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Queensland stickers on the, on the cover, on the cases, so

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people would get great.

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This is really good.

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Matt: I do remember that I think it was from because I was born

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in Brighton, sydney, and I do remember local video store,

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especially the corner store from where I was growing up, and

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they would have all those really squishy type VHS covers and the

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banning Queensland stickers on.

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I remember one of them being I think it was Peter Jackson's

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pure shit.

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I think it was or bad bad taste or whatever.

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Pete: Bad taste yeah.

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Matt: I remember that one always caught my eye because of the

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sticker on it and I got oh, can I watch this?

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And but I was way underage so I wasn't allowed to get the watch

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.

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Yeah, yeah, still haven't yet.

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I should really get around to watching it now that I'm in my

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you know, nearly that half century.

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Pete: Well, in 1989, I've been 62.

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So it would have been about 37.

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So not an issue.

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But, um, yeah, so I remember the VHS for sure and I think I

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my first time I ever watched it was on VHS.

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I found I actually found some information that it was actually

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shown on TV at some stage as well, in 1990 as well it was.

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It was put on commercial TV for a little while.

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Matt: Oh, like about 11 o'clock at night or whatever like for

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the Probably.

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Pete: Yeah, I think it was rated MA apparently and ran on nine.

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Win an NBN 1055 on Sunday, the 23rd of January has a 1994.

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And then it also turned up in 2000 on channel nine at 1 45 AM

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on the 27th of October.

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Matt: Oh well, that's just returning back from the

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underground disco type thing.

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Pete: It is, and that's all thanks to Ozmoviescom.

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I think it's a great website and they got some really good

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info on this movie, more than Wikipedia or IMDB or any of

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those sites, which is to be expected.

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I guess it's pretty niche.

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Matt: Oh, like the more independent or, you know, the

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smaller run websites.

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They are great to have.

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They've got more information because it's more or less

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passion projects from coming from people who are more

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dedicated to the finer detail.

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Pete: There's even a houseboat horrorcom, which is obviously a

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fan site of some type, and they're looking to try and all

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they were I don't know how old this is and how you know when it

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was last updated they're trying to get people that like.

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They're trying to organize a remaking houseboat horror.

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Matt: Going it on because it's if they can make speed on a boat

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with speed two, and you got, you know, titanic being the

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number one, or you know, like the one, the highest grossing

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movies of all time then.

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And then you've got the Poseidon Adventure and all those

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other type of boat related blockbusters.

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They can do that with houseboat horror, with like infinity or

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houseboat horror too.

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Pete: Exactly.

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I think that rather than remake it, they should just make a

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sequel.

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Yes, yeah.

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Well, if, if to be can do Titanic to, we can have

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houseboat horror too.

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Matt: And you know what I've seen Titanic to and yeah, yes,

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it's not too bad.

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Actually, I'm going how the hell are they going to cover

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this?

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And they did a pretty good job at it.

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Imagine it with a bigger budget or be even better, but yeah,

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it's, it'd be great.

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Yeah Well, I don't know if you got in your notes and I do

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apologize if I have the website wrong, but might have been

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Monster Fest or something along the lines of that.

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It was a few years ago where they did a prank or an April

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Fool's.

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Did you know anything about that?

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Pete: No, don't tell us.

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Matt: All right, well, where it was, it was an April Fool's

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article.

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Not knowing it's April Fool's, but they were saying that the

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latest release of Houseboat Horror coming out I think it was

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either Blu-ray or 4K, with all these extra added features this

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was in around around 2019, 2018, 2019.

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So, but it turned out it was an April Fool's article.

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But now look who's laughing.

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It's there.

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It's on Blu-ray now.

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Pete: You can watch it.

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Yeah, I mean, this movie is like definitely fits into that.

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Perfect, so bad.

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It's good genre of movies.

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You know how some movies are just like okay, it's another

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umbrella release, but I was.

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I wasn't so stupid enough to buy it.

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I was happy I bought it, I guess.

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But Winnie the Pooh, blood and Honey right, have you seen it?

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Matt: I haven't seen it, but I am aware of it.

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Pete: It's a bad movie, but it's not so bad, it's good.

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It's just a bad movie, right?

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Yeah, I was really.

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Just because I thought, oh, this has got to be.

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Because I never, I never thought at all that Winnie the

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Pooh, blood and Honey was going to be a decent movie.

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I always knew it was going to be crap movie, but I thought, oh

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well, it'll be so crap that it'll be fun to watch.

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But it wasn't.

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It was just boring.

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And whereas this movie is a hell of a lot of fun to watch and

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it's got really bad dialogue, it's got really bad acting,

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there's some really weird cuts and shots.

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Like especially there's that scene where John Michael

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Housen's talking to the guys at the at the boat place and in the

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middle of a shot of him talking we cut to this the other guy

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I've forgotten his name, the blonde guy who's a bit of a

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dickhead and he's making some weird face and it's just like

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that's some terrible cuts.

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But it's a really really fun watch and watching it I'd love

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to watch this with like mates that are really fun, like minded

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mates.

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I mean.

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You know, when you sometimes watch it with people that just

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don't some people get it, some people don't get it, but if

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you're watching it with you know , if I was watching it with some

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of the guys that I talked to on Twitter and wherever about

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horror movies and stuff like that, I think we'd have a great

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time.

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Like I'd love watching it with Jay, right, yeah.

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Matt: It would be fun.

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I watched it in line up for this podcast and I hadn't

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watched the movie in years but I watched it as a refresher, but

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with my wife and my wife has not seen the movie at all and, yeah

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, she's American and introducing her to this movie it was a lot

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of fun watching her react to this movie and did you like it?

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She understood the concept of it all where it was.

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Yeah, don't take it too seriously.

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Yeah, yeah, it was a lot of fun , so we enjoyed our night

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watching it.

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Pete: Oh, that's good.

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Matt: That's probably the politest way I could say it.

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Pete: Yeah, there's so much stuff, Like I've got so many

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notes, right.

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Like there's the John Michael house and scene.

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Like why would you have him in the movie?

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He's in the movie for what?

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Three minutes, basically.

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Yeah, and I'm like does he play himself?

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Is he playing himself in the movie and he's carrying this

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horror book?

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Why is he carrying this horror book?

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It's like it makes no sense.

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Matt: Could he be a deceler?

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Pete: Well, no, that was it right, he was carrying a knife

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in the way he was looking at the knife and all this, and there's

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a.

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Matt: Well, there was a fact that a big star like him of the

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time just happened to go to Lake Infinity to chill for a holiday

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.

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Like, honestly, he's the Hollywood gossip man.

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Like do you think he would have got overseas or anything?

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No, but no, lake Infinity.

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Pete: He's going to do some fishing.

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He's going to catch some fish and figure out how to get them

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off the hook.

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I think, yeah, what to them?

00:21:54
Yeah, some really strange stuff in this movie, but I think

00:21:59
that's what makes it great.

00:21:59
There's a scene where there's that book nerd guy, the guy

00:22:03
reading the book all the time, right, and the book's called Sir

00:22:06
Garwain and the Green Knight and he someone says something

00:22:10
about it must have some great sex scenes or something in it.

00:22:13
And he says and then he starts talking about Nazis.

00:22:16
And I'm like what's, what's Sir Garwain and the Green Knight

00:22:19
got to do with Nazis?

00:22:21
Ha, ha, ha.

00:22:22
Ha Makes sense.

00:22:24
But I think that's what makes the movie.

00:22:27
It's so fun, right.

00:22:29
Matt: Yeah, I enjoyed the fact that when they were at the

00:22:32
petrol station where John Michael makes his appearance and

00:22:36
stuff the fact that petrol was twenty one dollars fifty.

00:22:41
Pete: Oh yeah.

00:22:41
Matt: For like for the fill up.

00:22:42
For the total fill up.

00:22:44
Pete: Yeah, I said that I was watching it with May, with my

00:22:46
wife, last night, and we both went oh my God, it only cost

00:22:50
twenty one dollars to fill the car with petrol.

00:22:52
Yeah, and they had three types of petrol at that petrol station

00:22:56
.

00:22:58
Matt: Yeah, it was a letter diesel and.

00:23:02
Pete: And unleaded.

00:23:03
Matt: Yeah, and unleaded yeah.

00:23:05
Pete: He said do you want number one, number two or number three

00:23:07
?

00:23:07
And for some reason he's he picked number two, Number two,

00:23:12
something, and he says that's diesel.

00:23:14
You want diesel?

00:23:15
He said no, I don't want super or something like that, it's

00:23:19
just.

00:23:19
It's such a great movie.

00:23:21
Matt: Sparkling dialogue right there.

00:23:23
Pete: Oh, the dialogue is fantastic.

00:23:24
And there's the bit where Alan Dale and I'm going to call

00:23:28
people by their actors names rather than their characters

00:23:31
names, I know and Alan Dale and the girl he goes to the

00:23:36
houseboat with, so Alan Dale plays the director of the movie

00:23:40
shoot right.

00:23:41
And they they're driving in cars and they're driving

00:23:44
parallel to each other on the wrong side of the road and I'm

00:23:49
thinking, hang on, they're not filming this with one of these

00:23:53
cars on a trailer, they're actually driving and it looks

00:23:57
like the way the lights on Alan Dale's face is like a light or

00:24:00
something shining up in his face so you can see him from the

00:24:03
other car and like they're driving on the wrong side of the

00:24:06
road.

00:24:07
Well, I mean, that's guerrilla filmmaking, right.

00:24:10
Matt: Yeah, and they're on their walkabout phones.

00:24:13
They walk.

00:24:14
The walkabout is being phone thing yeah there's massive

00:24:20
phones.

00:24:21
Pete: I know they get a call out in the at the end of the movie

00:24:25
as being supplied by Telstra in the credits.

00:24:29
Matt: Telecom you got to make sure you got to get the air

00:24:32
Right.

00:24:32
Telecom.

00:24:34
Pete: Have to get that right and that's seen.

00:24:37
That seems great.

00:24:38
And there's a guy who spins out after the.

00:24:40
He goes around and he gets out of his car.

00:24:42
Are you fucking idiots or something like that.

00:24:45
Matt: So yeah, that dialogue went quite long where on the in

00:24:51
the cars parallel to each other yeah.

00:24:53
So, it was just like, oh, like my cringiness was kicking in of

00:24:59
I was going to be another car or get off your phone.

00:25:01
Get off your phone.

00:25:02
You shouldn't be on your phone like that.

00:25:04
So it's right.

00:25:06
Pete: There's so many things wrong with that scene, oh great.

00:25:09
And the other thing that's really interesting about this

00:25:12
movie is Deborah Lee Farnes was the casting manager, or whatever

00:25:16
you call them, and she was supposed to be in this movie

00:25:20
playing I've forgotten the character's name again but the

00:25:23
strange, the strange woman who's related to the killer, and for

00:25:28
some reason at the last minute so I understand from watching

00:25:31
some of the extras on the Blu-ray at the last minute she

00:25:34
decided she wasn't going to do it.

00:25:35
I'd say she probably thought, oh shit, I'm not going to be in

00:25:38
this.

00:25:38
How am I ever going to meet Hugh Jackman if I'm in this

00:25:43
movie?

00:25:43
Right, and she opted out and the other actor came in like at

00:25:47
the last minute to do the Do the .

00:25:50
Matt: Yeah, that wasn't that Um Louise Silverson.

00:25:53
That's it, yeah, and the citizens are my apologies.

00:25:58
Pete: And that character is really is really strange.

00:26:02
Matt: I thought it's meant to be kind of like Jason or he's you

00:26:07
know like, kind of like the mother type.

00:26:09
Pete: Yeah, like Pamela Voorhees , yeah, yeah.

00:26:11
Matt: Yeah, pamela, that's it.

00:26:12
Yeah, kind of mimicked her style.

00:26:17
Pete: A little bit.

00:26:17
Yeah, yeah, it's really funny.

00:26:21
And then when she walks off with the final three survivors

00:26:26
at the end of the movie, I was like, oh, do they get killed?

00:26:30
Is she basically leading them back to you know the killer, or

00:26:35
is she actually going to help them?

00:26:36
I was like, please, kill animal , kill animal.

00:26:42
Matt: But that's the thing.

00:26:43
It's why this is where the sequel you know a potential

00:26:47
sequel could come in, as like, did they survive?

00:26:49
Pete: That's right.

00:26:50
It's exactly right.

00:26:51
Yeah, it's great.

00:26:52
What are some of the stuff that stuck out for you?

00:26:56
Matt: Well, obviously I got a big thrill out of watching, you

00:27:02
know, gavin Woods moment, yeah, when you know, guys, girls, come

00:27:08
up here, the views make me have set your bar up Wine.

00:27:10
So yes, so party time.

00:27:13
Sorry, I got to get it right.

00:27:14
Guys, girls, party time.

00:27:17
You know, come up here, the views make them sent you bar up,

00:27:20
you're well.

00:27:23
Pete: He does that and he does these, that he's got these other

00:27:25
scenes where they're sort of he's kind of almost like

00:27:29
commentating on what people are doing.

00:27:32
Matt: It's yeah, it's odd.

00:27:33
It's like it was like common tree before.

00:27:36
Common tree was a thing in on extras, on on physical media.

00:27:42
Pete: But he was doing it in the movie, in the movie.

00:27:47
Matt: But hey, when he's talking he's always in the shit, so,

00:27:51
but it was.

00:27:52
I was mesmerised by, like, the excuses that they had for one of

00:28:00
the character that's about to die, where I've got his name,

00:28:04
but the guy who was just having acts practice.

00:28:07
Pete: Oh my God, practicing for cutting firewood.

00:28:10
Matt: Yes, it's like oh, I'm just practicing while he's just

00:28:15
cutting away at the tree for no reason.

00:28:17
Yeah, it was like uh, geez, could he be the killer?

00:28:22
Why didn't he just?

00:28:24
Pete: he was so annoying to us, really happy when he went.

00:28:27
He was remember who's coming.

00:28:29
When everyone woke up that morning banging on a pot with

00:28:32
that, the good old wakey, wakey, hands up, sneaky bit.

00:28:36
Matt: Yeah, and then there was the whole oh, someone didn't

00:28:40
sleep in their own bed.

00:28:43
Pete: Oh God.

00:28:45
Matt: But other than that, then there was also yeah, I'm going

00:28:48
to do what you did too and that is just referred to him by their

00:28:52
real names.

00:28:53
So, but with Ellen Dale's, you know, his character's name is

00:28:59
Grant Evans, because I thought at one stage did I just say

00:29:02
Grant or Greg Evans, yeah, so it's that line where, um, where

00:29:07
Gavin Woods saying the guy's name and he says Grant arming,

00:29:12
and then he says Greg or something like that.

00:29:14
Pete: He gets it mixed up and I think I wonder if he did that

00:29:16
for you know, on purpose, or whether he just missed it and

00:29:21
thought Greg Evans, yeah, perfect match.

00:29:24
Matt: It's the perfect match.

00:29:26
Yeah, for like peaches and creep, yeah, anyway.

00:29:32
Pete: What a show.

00:29:34
Speaker 4: Like peaches and creep and the contra team Like

00:29:39
sand in the sea and the birds in the beach, like a monster and a

00:29:44
pearl, the guy and a girl.

00:29:46
What have you got?

00:29:48
You got a perfect match.

00:29:50
Yes, it's perfect match.

00:29:52
Now welcome the star of our show Greg Evans.

00:29:58
Pete: My best friend was on that .

00:30:00
Matt: Oh really, yes.

00:30:01
Oh goodness gracious, did they walk away with any prizes, or I?

00:30:05
Pete: can't remember.

00:30:05
I remember she told us a story one day and like she went on the

00:30:10
date and they're apparently very heavily like um chaperone

00:30:14
and stuff like that.

00:30:15
Ah, yeah, it didn't work.

00:30:17
You know, it was all like see you later at the end of the

00:30:19
weekend.

00:30:20
Matt: Yeah, we got a holiday out of it, and that was exactly

00:30:23
right yeah.

00:30:23
But when, uh, Grant slash Alan was directing the band members

00:30:31
when they were recording the video clip, and then it's like,

00:30:33
hey, you got to act like you're young and horny and like they

00:30:38
don't look young.

00:30:39
So maybe horny, yeah, but you know, when you got the they're

00:30:46
all scruffy looking, um, and it looked like they're in their

00:30:50
early thirties and some of the high on whatever.

00:30:55
Pete: Alan Dale was also very good.

00:30:56
Get off my lawn guy a couple of times in the movie with with

00:31:01
the whole.

00:31:01
Why are they still awake?

00:31:03
Why do you stop doing that?

00:31:06
Matt: Well, well, every time Alan Dale pops up somewhere like

00:31:09
um, you know I've judged me all you want, but I only watched

00:31:15
lost for the first time, um, roughly a year ago, like the

00:31:21
entire series ever since it came out on Disney plus and I've

00:31:23
finished it.

00:31:23
And then the Sinner's Alan Dale came on, um, playing the

00:31:27
billionaire you know show I went oh, housebird horror.

00:31:31
And then, you know, when he's popped up on the X files it's

00:31:36
either um, you know neighbors, or Housebird horror.

00:31:40
Pete: Yeah, he's actually had an interesting career.

00:31:43
To be honest, he's actually done quite well for himself

00:31:46
really.

00:31:46
Yeah, he's become a big movie actor or anything, but he's done

00:31:50
lots of TV.

00:31:51
Matt: Oh, plenty of it.

00:31:52
And the OC as well.

00:31:54
And um, yeah, just popping up in various well-known things and

00:31:58
then we don't give him much praise.

00:32:00
But it's other.

00:32:01
I guess Australia it's.

00:32:03
We would just go.

00:32:04
Oh, you're the neighbor's guy.

00:32:05
You're the one who dropped it of a heart attack in the show.

00:32:09
Pete: That's right.

00:32:09
He did too the other thing about Alan Dale in this when he

00:32:14
was on the phone to the guy called Harold and he was calling

00:32:17
him Harold.

00:32:18
I was getting major neighbors.

00:32:20
So look, oh my God, he's like he's talking to Harold again

00:32:24
from.

00:32:25
Oh that's fantastic.

00:32:29
Matt: So that's where it gets to meta.

00:32:30
Or you just go to reference here, reference there and yeah,

00:32:36
no, it's.

00:32:36
That is really good.

00:32:38
And the fact that, um, what, especially when animal or the

00:32:43
character that animal played um, he actually had some dialogue

00:32:49
which I was stunned at.

00:32:50
So I've never really heard his voice because on hey, hey, every

00:32:54
time I threw it to him, they he was just up to some something

00:32:58
mischievous or anything like that.

00:33:00
But he actually spoke and gone.

00:33:03
You know what, if you polished himself up, he could have

00:33:06
actually been a decent actor.

00:33:07
Pete: Yeah, yeah, he was annoying in this though.

00:33:09
Oh but his character was yeah, obviously, but it's almost like

00:33:14
they, like you were just alluding to, like when they

00:33:17
hired him for this, they were like, oh, just do what you do in

00:33:19
.

00:33:19
Hey, hey, it's Saturday and then it'll be fine, he's part of

00:33:22
my drink, he's part of my drinking game as well.

00:33:25
Matt: So yeah, well, when they're singing the song for the

00:33:30
clip or sinking to it or miming it, and the fact that he's

00:33:35
doing the drums, fine, but then he purposely hesitates to go out

00:33:39
of sync.

00:33:43
Pete: Yeah, it's really funny, like my wife's.

00:33:44
Like what's he hitting?

00:33:45
And it looks like he's got some very early.

00:33:48
Besides the bongos that he's always playing, he's got some

00:33:51
very early.

00:33:52
Well, not that it looks like a.

00:33:55
So I've got one.

00:33:56
It's called the SPD We'll we'll be at SPD 20.

00:33:59
Maybe it's a Roland electronic percussion thing I don't know if

00:34:04
it's a Roland or it's some no name one or something and they

00:34:07
usually have about 10, eight or 10 pads on them and you can

00:34:10
assign different sounds to them.

00:34:11
They've got the sounds or built in, et cetera, and and it seems

00:34:14
like he's got one of those and he's just using that, but either

00:34:17
way he's pulling his hand back and hitting the hand.

00:34:20
It's so funny.

00:34:22
Matt: Put it this way for anyone , for the younger generation

00:34:27
Think when you listen to this episode, think of him playing

00:34:32
guitar hero or drum band, guitar band or band hero, whatever it

00:34:36
is Rock band.

00:34:37
Yeah, rock band, yeah, yeah, yeah With the drum.

00:34:42
So not it's, but yeah it's.

00:34:45
I did also was ready for that gratuitous nudity throughout the

00:34:52
movie.

00:34:53
Pete: So what's with the scene where animal is walking up to

00:34:59
like on land, he gets off the boat and he's standing on a tree

00:35:02
and then there's a naked woman, who's not even in the rest of

00:35:06
the movie, just standing around near the water and he's I don't

00:35:12
know if it's like is it a hallucination?

00:35:15
It's like this really weird scene where you just get this

00:35:18
woman naked out of nowhere on the water.

00:35:21
Matt: Yeah, it's like that.

00:35:23
The producers have just gone.

00:35:24
Oh, who wants to get naked and be in the movie for a moment?

00:35:28
Pete: Yeah.

00:35:29
Matt: Yeah, they need to fill time.

00:35:31
Pete: There's some interesting nudity in this film, and and I

00:35:34
shouldn't say interesting nudity it sounds weird, but there's a

00:35:39
couple of scenes where there's some nudity, right, and it's

00:35:43
like okay, obviously they just want to do.

00:35:44
They've got everything else, they've got the violence and

00:35:46
they've got all this other stuff .

00:35:47
They've got the music, you know , those great hits by Brian

00:35:50
Manix, as they say on the cover, and all this stuff.

00:35:54
Matt: Yeah, it's.

00:35:55
This horrific flick contains nudity and knockout.

00:35:58
Brian Manix song hits.

00:36:00
Pete: That's it.

00:36:00
Knockout Brian Manix songs which we're going to talk about,

00:36:02
but other stuff.

00:36:04
You got other stuff.

00:36:05
Matt: Yeah, Um, I've got a note here which I didn't really fill

00:36:08
it out, uh, but hopefully if I say it it will trigger something

00:36:12
which you might know what I'm talking about.

00:36:14
But I think the line which I cack myself laughing over was

00:36:18
I've got here, don't fuck around .

00:36:20
Is what he said when a machete misses his head.

00:36:27
Pete: It's really interesting.

00:36:28
Did you watch this last night with the subtitles on oh?

00:36:32
Yeah, it's always interesting watching a movie with subtitles,

00:36:34
because sometimes the subtitles aren't exactly, you know right.

00:36:39
And there's a few, there's a few instances in the movie where

00:36:42
there's a start of a subtitle and then in brackets it says

00:36:46
inaudible.

00:36:47
Well, there's some places where the the subtitles don't really

00:36:53
match.

00:36:53
I'm not sure how.

00:36:55
I'm assuming these days they most likely use I'm not sure how

00:37:00
umbrella did it, but I'm assuming they most likely use AI

00:37:05
these days.

00:37:06
Matt: Right To well, yeah, they probably run it through like a

00:37:09
program, like D script, and then just go from there.

00:37:11
It's like, oh, that's close enough, it will do.

00:37:13
That's close.

00:37:14
Yeah, our budget doesn't?

00:37:15
We've just spent so much money on trying to digitally restore

00:37:18
the film.

00:37:19
Pete: Yeah, which they did a really good job.

00:37:21
We'll talk about that.

00:37:22
There's actually quite a few kills in this movie, there's

00:37:55
like 13, which is another, almost like a ripoff of.

00:37:59
Matt: Well, you counted yeah.

00:38:00
Oh, I guess.

00:38:01
Pete: No, I cheated.

00:38:01
I found a.

00:38:02
I found a link.

00:38:05
Matt: Yeah, I loved it when one of the guys you know when he got

00:38:10
starved with the syringe in the face and then the annoying guy

00:38:15
yeah.

00:38:16
Yeah, and the machete in the stomach.

00:38:18
But he's all to the ground in between the trees and like

00:38:22
really awkwardly, and then he does that whole last gasp of air

00:38:26
like yeah, it's like wow, give that guy a logie.

00:38:30
Pete: That was great, my wife thought that was hilarious the

00:38:33
way he died.

00:38:33
So, yeah, yeah, he's definitely dead, I think.

00:38:36
I think so, yeah, so yeah, this is 13 kills, eight males and

00:38:41
five females.

00:38:42
In this movie, I think my favorite one is probably, well,

00:38:48
besides, alan Dale getting his head split in two, which is kind

00:38:53
of fun Spoiler alert, if you're .

00:38:54
Matt: Oh Jesus.

00:38:57
Pete: But I think my favorite one is the woman that has the

00:39:01
horseshoe pushed into our face.

00:39:03
That's kind of something you've never seen before.

00:39:06
Matt: Oh the horseshoe.

00:39:06
Well, my wife and I were watching that moment and because

00:39:13
it was done in slow motion and the girl, the ladies just

00:39:16
screaming and going, no, it's kind of like why scream for use

00:39:20
that time and energy to get the hell out of there.

00:39:23
It's like, oh no, it's coming right for me, so yeah, but oh

00:39:29
well, it's it's hilarious.

00:39:31
Pete: I like I didn't.

00:39:31
I don't think they did a great job with it, but I thought, okay

00:39:34
, as a murder weapon.

00:39:35
I thought that's something I haven't seen before.

00:39:40
Matt: Well, I give credit to my darling wife, nicole, where she

00:39:45
said well, I guess she wasn't that lucky.

00:39:50
Pete: Well, I think I said something like oh, they're just

00:39:52
horsing around, so it's definitely one of those sort of

00:39:57
movies, right?

00:39:58
Gavin Wood: Yeah, that's what's so enjoyable about it.

00:40:00
Pete: It's pretty good and then Gavin Wood gets a good kill.

00:40:02
He gets the, the spear gun.

00:40:05
Oh yeah, well, he's trying to put a condom on.

00:40:08
Yeah, I know Right, he's talking to.

00:40:12
He's talking to his penis, telling it to get up because

00:40:15
he's gonna get lucky.

00:40:19
Matt: I did.

00:40:19
I will point out one of the other lines that he did say,

00:40:23
yeah, where one of the women was coming out and sees all the

00:40:26
blood and gunk and stuff like that on the wall with the

00:40:29
slaughtered animal, the guts and stuff like that, and then he

00:40:32
goes oh shit, what's top of asshole would do that.

00:40:34
So he's just sitting.

00:40:38
Pete: He says it too.

00:40:39
Matt: Yeah, so with his kind of VB, and yeah, it just calls it

00:40:44
out like that's.

00:40:45
That's brilliant yeah.

00:40:47
Pete: And as much as I like the horseshoe kill, I think actually

00:40:50
I think one of the best kills that's actually pulled off in

00:40:54
this movie is the one in bed where the woman stabbed from the

00:40:57
bottom of the bed.

00:40:58
Matt: Oh yeah, that's pretty cool.

00:41:00
Pete: That's actually pretty cool.

00:41:01
Matt: That reminded me of I think it was nightmare on Elm

00:41:05
Street or what's the They've done it a couple of time in the

00:41:10
Friday.

00:41:10
Pete: Films like they did it to Kevin Bacon.

00:41:12
Matt: Yes, that's the one yeah.

00:41:13
Pete: And then they did it in Friday, for I think in the final

00:41:19
chapter, or no Friday 3.

00:41:21
Sorry, I know my Friday 30 films a little bit too much yeah

00:41:25
.

00:41:25
Matt: Just just casually lying there in bed naked reading a

00:41:28
book and then like all right, wow, this book is suddenly.

00:41:35
It's really, really sharp.

00:41:38
Pete: Yes, it was pretty good.

00:41:39
It's pretty good.

00:41:40
I really enjoyed it.

00:41:42
Matt: And I do think one more line where another cast member,

00:41:46
where I think it was having a fight with the guy that the

00:41:50
murderer or the killer and he goes oh, piss off.

00:41:54
Pete: and then before he cops the machete, I actually said to

00:41:59
me at the time.

00:42:00
I said do you know what?

00:42:01
That's actually probably one of the more realistic kind of bits

00:42:05
of a written dialogue in this movie, because it's kind of the

00:42:08
thing that an Aussie would say if someone was trying to kill

00:42:12
you.

00:42:12
Be like, oh, fuck off or piss off.

00:42:14
Matt: Yeah, piss off you see.

00:42:16
Yeah, exactly Right.

00:42:18
And then we're like down the can.

00:42:23
I swear too much on it.

00:42:24
Pete: Yeah, you can swear.

00:42:25
Matt: Go because it's explicit we like oh where's Baba, oh, the

00:42:30
cunt's dead, Sorry yeah.

00:42:34
Pete: It's very Australian, very awkward.

00:42:38
It is very awkward, yeah, yeah.

00:42:40
Like I said, this movie is more fun than it should be and

00:42:46
obviously I like it way more than I should.

00:42:50
Matt: I agree.

00:42:51
I feel the same way.

00:42:52
I've got a newfound appreciation for the movie, like

00:42:56
I do.

00:42:56
Other than earning the Blue Ray , I still got the DVD as well.

00:43:01
Pete: And signed by Brian Mannix .

00:43:03
Matt: Well, I will confess I there was a stage where I had to

00:43:09
, unfortunately, sell the movie.

00:43:12
It's an instant regret, but I didn't make a hundred bucks out

00:43:16
of it.

00:43:16
I wasn't asking for that amount .

00:43:18
Well, I threw it up on there and even though it had signed

00:43:22
hey, matt, this is the worst Australian movie ever and yet

00:43:27
someone bought it because I had the photos to prove that.

00:43:30
I had Brian hold the DVD in front of me as well.

00:43:33
So just to prove it was it.

00:43:35
Pete: but I can't take your memory away.

00:43:38
Matt: No.

00:43:38
So I went and bought the DVD again and hopefully, if I bumped

00:43:43
into Brian Mannix again, I'll get an assignment again.

00:43:45
So, yeah, times were tough at that time for me, so yeah, have

00:43:51
to do stuff occasionally.

00:43:52
Yeah, but hey, now it's got two copies and I'm bloody loving it

00:43:57
.

00:43:59
Pete: The other thing that's interesting about this movie is

00:44:02
the amount of reuse shots in the movie.

00:44:04
Have you noticed that?

00:44:06
There's a few that I noticed.

00:44:07
One is when the killer's burning and there's the

00:44:10
flashback of somebody burning previously because of the movie,

00:44:16
people or something, and you know how there was like a prior

00:44:20
evil, right, the good old prior evil that happened, or the prior

00:44:23
.

00:44:23
Matt: Oh yes.

00:44:24
Pete: Yes, so the same shot of the guy twisting around and on

00:44:28
fire is the same shot at the end of the movie when the killer's

00:44:31
twisting around and on fire at the top of the boat.

00:44:34
Matt: Oh goodness, so there's that.

00:44:36
Well, maybe you budget cuts for that, maybe.

00:44:39
Pete: And then there's the dock shot from the water At the very

00:44:41
end.

00:44:42
You've got the bit where the hand comes up right At the end,

00:44:44
which is another Friday, the 13th, ripoff, sort of thing.

00:44:46
And there's a shot earlier in the movie, exactly the same

00:44:52
angle, but just the hand doesn't come up.

00:44:54
So it was probably just just before that happened.

00:44:56
And there's the bit where the guy's playing the piano in the

00:45:00
bar, the guitar plays, playing piano, and twice they go back to

00:45:05
them and he's playing exactly with the same piece and it's

00:45:07
exactly the same scene.

00:45:08
Matt: I'm sure that that it's the same scene and then they

00:45:12
just flip it all to make it look like there's a different scene.

00:45:17
Pete: The editor of the movie.

00:45:18
I actually want to find his name and give him some credit

00:45:21
because, like edited by Clayton Jacobson, where he was saying

00:45:27
that when they finished filming the movie, he looked at all the

00:45:33
rushes and he said there's no suspense in this movie and he

00:45:37
was saying that he actually shot a heap, made it did a heap of

00:45:41
shots, of insert shots, things like the killer's hand on a tree

00:45:45
or all sorts of other bits and pieces, just really short shots

00:45:50
that weren't originally shot to build some suspense in the movie

00:45:53
.

00:45:53
He and he did things like there was a park near Channel 10 or

00:45:57
something where the, where he was editing and they did a lot

00:46:00
of the shots there and and things like that.

00:46:03
He was saying that he worked, he worked on the movie for like

00:46:07
months trying to put it in and, once again, didn't get a cent

00:46:11
for it.

00:46:11
Matt: Well, I was going to say but wouldn't the suspense be

00:46:15
that the sampling of synths that's being used in it during

00:46:20
our moments?

00:46:22
Pete: of those synth sounds, man , yeah, yeah.

00:46:24
Matt: But that's great.

00:46:24
It is amazing how yeah like talking about the suspense and

00:46:31
stuff and there's only so much you can do when it's filmed on

00:46:34
tape.

00:46:36
Pete: Yeah, it's filmed on video , right?

00:46:37
Yeah, and that's the whole thing.

00:46:38
It's really and there's all the bits where I don't know if it's

00:46:42
the lens they're using or whatever it is where it covers

00:46:46
one of the corners of the frame.

00:46:47
If you watch the movie, there's lots of that.

00:46:51
Matt: Yeah, I'd say that maybe when it was on VHS and every

00:46:57
other TVs were for 4x3, that was kind of cut off.

00:47:00
So you know how sometimes you get the trimming or whatever

00:47:05
where it's.

00:47:05
We're never meant to see it, but because of the restoration

00:47:09
we get to see everything.

00:47:10
Pete: Get to see it a bit more.

00:47:11
Yeah yeah, didn't see any booms , though, any mic booms, but

00:47:14
maybe they didn't even use any.

00:47:15
Oh, did you find one?

00:47:17
Matt: I thought I briefly saw one, but I didn't make a time

00:47:20
mark on it.

00:47:21
It was either that or I also saw a camera shadow.

00:47:27
Pete: Oh, okay, yeah, because.

00:47:28
Matt: I'm a stickler for those things, yep, and I swear I did

00:47:33
probably see a boom for like a split second, but yeah, right.

00:47:38
Yeah, I wish I made a note of the time stamp for it.

00:47:43
Pete: The other thing is the bottle of milk.

00:47:45
Did you notice the bottle of milk?

00:47:46
When the woman pours the milk out for the cat and we come back

00:47:50
later in the things almost empty.

00:47:52
Matt: Yeah, I wrote it down on my phone.

00:47:54
Yeah, leaves milk out.

00:47:57
Pete: I lose the milk out as well, right, who does that?

00:48:00
Matt: Oh, it's just cringe worthy.

00:48:03
It's like the way and I'm going back to the very beginning, but

00:48:08
only because it's a beverage related thing is, when they came

00:48:11
out of the petrol station or the bait thing and they'll

00:48:15
having, they brought out coffees and they filled right up to the

00:48:17
rim, but there's no lead, so hot coffees in the car heading

00:48:21
out to like infinity.

00:48:22
That's going to be a disaster right there.

00:48:24
It is.

00:48:25
Yeah.

00:48:26
No wonder why the guy got burned, because it's you know

00:48:28
well, yeah, it's milk and coffee .

00:48:33
That's just no base, but that just don't care.

00:49:01
Pete: There's no safety Because I spent so much fucking time on

00:49:04
it.

00:49:04
I can't go without talking about the lyrics for the song

00:49:08
called Young and Groovy.

00:49:09
It's a centerpiece of this film , but it's just got the most

00:49:13
amazing lyrics like.

00:49:15
My favorite one is like tonight she's mine, I will never cause,

00:49:21
I'm not that guy, whatever that means.

00:49:23
And she's hot in bed.

00:49:26
She's coming soon.

00:49:28
At least that's what she says, and I don't know if that's like

00:49:32
she's coming soon because she's hot in bed or she's coming soon

00:49:35
because he's waiting for two layers of lyrics are like crazy.

00:49:43
Matt: That's why the knockout.

00:49:44
Pete: Yeah, it's another knockout hit from Brian Manix.

00:49:48
Poor Brian Manix, he wrote better songs.

00:50:15
Speaker 4: I think I said that earlier about the girl lost on

00:50:27
squirrel.

00:50:27
She lost her windowchair, that and she's hot in bed.

00:50:31
She's coming soon.

00:50:34
At least that's what she says.

00:50:37
She's on a date with you.

00:50:43
She's on a date with me.

00:50:44
She's on a date with you.

00:50:46
She's on a date with me.

00:50:48
She's on a date with you.

00:50:50
She's on a date with me.

00:50:52
Pete: You're on a date with me.

00:50:54
Oh, you're like 50 years and stuff like that.

00:50:56
Did you ever listen to that on Kenny X?

00:50:58
Maybe?

00:51:00
Matt: Yeah, again, like the, my previous work and all that was

00:51:04
working at classic hits radio stations and that they would be

00:51:08
played a fair bit.

00:51:09
So 50 years is a good, is a favorite song.

00:51:13
Yeah, I'd say that Brian is quite underappreciated.

00:51:18
Pete: And Kenny X men are a great little band, so of course

00:51:21
still gigging.

00:51:21
Matt: I'm not sure everybody wants to work.

00:51:24
Pete: No, no, that's a great song, I love it.

00:51:26
So, oh, no, not me yeah that's cool.

00:51:29
Matt: You go from that to I'm cool, she's hot.

00:51:33
Pete: No, right, can't put my finger on just what she's got.

00:51:38
She's got to hit at midnight.

00:51:41
And I couldn't figure out what was after that.

00:51:42
Neither could the subtitles, because the subtitles just say

00:51:48
at midnight, inaudible yeah, I love it.

00:51:51
And I spent 10 minutes trying to figure out what that next

00:51:55
part of it was.

00:51:55
I couldn't figure it out.

00:51:56
So, brian Mannix, if you're out there, can you please send us

00:51:59
the proper lyrics please?

00:52:00
We need them.

00:52:01
We need them.

00:52:02
Most likely I'll get a takedown notice, not because of any

00:52:06
copyright issues, but because he just doesn't want to Please get

00:52:11
rid of this song.

00:52:12
But it makes the movie, that whole clip, the whole piece

00:52:16
where they're doing the film clip and this song's going.

00:52:19
It's so corny but it's really funny.

00:52:23
And they've got those two dancing girls, those two girls

00:52:26
doing that very 80s kind of dancing.

00:52:28
It's hilarious.

00:52:31
Matt: It just shows the era of that too, because no one's

00:52:34
flaunting their cleavage or not scantily clad.

00:52:39
But yeah, they're just there to enjoy and as our two models is

00:52:44
great.

00:52:45
Grant Evans say hey, you're young and horny.

00:52:48
Pete: It's amazing that the whole song is in the film.

00:52:50
It's like okay, this must be the song they wanted to put in

00:52:53
the movie.

00:52:53
And then there's a bit earlier where they're kind of playing it

00:52:58
on the boat, just with the bongos and the thing, and the

00:53:02
guitarist in the band is saying what a shit song it is and

00:53:05
animals, yeah, like it is a crap song.

00:53:07
Blah, blah, blah and it's like hang on, it sounds like then

00:53:10
they just he's just introducing the band to this song and then

00:53:15
later it's all done and produced and everything and they're

00:53:17
doing the film clip.

00:53:18
I'm like that doesn't really make sense.

00:53:19
But anyway, nothing in this film makes sense.

00:53:22
Matt: She's young and no hang on .

00:53:24
Can I kiss you?

00:53:24
No, can you One, two, three, four.

00:53:29
Speaker 4: Hey, listen, one, two , three, four.

00:53:32
She's young and she's cool and she's groovy.

00:53:34
She's young and she's cool by me.

00:53:38
She's young and she's cool and she's groovy.

00:53:42
Young and cool is all right by me.

00:53:46
I cannot like it.

00:53:48
Yeah, I know, man, but the song really is a bag of shit.

00:53:52
Matt: Well, you got any better suggestions about no, no Fence

00:53:55
brother.

00:53:55
Far a bit from it.

00:53:56
A criticised.

00:53:56
But does the word puke ring a bell?

00:54:00
Speaker 4: So what do you feel about it, guys?

00:54:02
I don't really feel bad about it.

00:54:02
Listen, everyone has to do your songs all the fucking time, no

00:54:07
matter how bad they are, and this is just like a fucking

00:54:09
fucking song from one session.

00:54:10
Matt: I've got good songs.

00:54:11
Speaker 4: I've got fucking good songs.

00:54:12
You've got good songs.

00:54:12
Matt: Yeah, I've got put in yeah , like the use of the jet boat

00:54:16
or the speed boat or yeah.

00:54:18
Yeah, it's like that they've gone, but we're certain money on

00:54:21
it, so we better made some use out of it, even though it

00:54:27
doesn't really make sense.

00:54:28
It's just used for filler.

00:54:30
Pete: Yeah, I was.

00:54:31
I said to May last night though I wouldn't mind going on a

00:54:33
houseboat.

00:54:34
I've never been on a houseboat before.

00:54:35
Oh, maybe not at Lake Yildon, that's where it was shot right

00:54:39
Lake Yildon Maybe.

00:54:42
Speaker 4: That would be fun, wouldn't it.

00:54:43
Matt: I wonder if any of the boats that they had featured in

00:54:46
this movie are still existing, like the houseboats.

00:54:49
Or, if they were, they'll be.

00:54:52
Pete: Anyone in Melbourne want to go out to Lake Yildon and

00:54:54
check for it?

00:54:54
That'd be great.

00:54:55
Let's give John.

00:54:56
Matt: Michael, a call yeah.

00:54:59
Pete: He's still live, right?

00:55:00
Yeah, he's still Some reason.

00:55:01
I thought he was gone.

00:55:02
Matt: No, no, no, You're probably thinking of Bernard

00:55:04
King or someone.

00:55:06
Pete: Probably someone like that .

00:55:07
Matt: Yeah, yeah, and like call John Michael and you ask him

00:55:11
about he'll get, oh, outrageous.

00:55:15
Pete: I loved him in nightmares.

00:55:17
Matt: Oh, you know what I'm saying.

00:55:19
Pete: He's so good in nightmares .

00:55:21
Matt: After we watched houseboat horror, we were in the mood for

00:55:25
a cheesy slasher film.

00:55:28
So keep with the genre.

00:55:30
And we watched nightmares, so it's like oh, that's almost

00:55:33
special abuse mate.

00:55:34
Oh, that's, it was a John Michael double feature.

00:55:39
Pete: Oh yeah, yeah, I love that movie.

00:55:41
It's so good yeah.

00:55:42
Matt: The good truth is sex scenes and everything.

00:55:44
Yeah, it's so nasty.

00:55:45
Pete: It's actually quite nasty, that film.

00:55:47
Matt: Oh, it is yeah.

00:55:49
Pete: It's very good.

00:55:50
Matt: Now we only got through about three quarters of it

00:55:53
before we called it a night.

00:55:55
Pete: Yeah, yeah yeah.

00:55:56
The song is amazing and it's definitely going to be on the

00:56:01
podcast.

00:56:01
Matt: Put it on iTunes, Brian.

00:56:03
Pete: Yeah, come on, put it on Spotify as well.

00:56:06
Matt: Yeah, $2.19.

00:56:08
Pete: I want to be able to add it to my my companion playlist.

00:56:11
I've got a companion playlist on Spotify where I try and find

00:56:16
the songs that are used in all these movies, and I've made a

00:56:18
playlist of them, so yeah you're going to struggle with

00:56:21
houseboat, that's for sure.

00:56:22
Yeah, there's nothing yet it's a bit of a bummer.

00:56:26
Matt: It's going to do the entire uncanny X-Men library.

00:56:29
Pete: Exactly Well, umbrella guys, come on.

00:56:32
When you did the man from Hong Kong, we got a soundtrack CD.

00:56:34
When you did Dead Kids, we got a CD of music.

00:56:38
Where's the soundtrack for Houseboat Horror?

00:56:41
Come on, Someone's got to do that.

00:56:43
God knows where the original recordings are.

00:56:45
Matt: Oh yeah, they're probably lost somewhere.

00:56:48
Yeah, Probably like where the I was going to say wherever they

00:56:53
found the video tapes, the masters for this, but no.

00:56:58
Pete: They'd be somewhere because someone they would have

00:57:00
been recorded in a recording studio, so someone would have

00:57:02
the masters somewhere.

00:57:03
Matt: Unless they were just that bad they just like burn these

00:57:06
burn them, the masters could be sealed up and at the bottom of

00:57:09
Lake Infinity.

00:57:10
Pete: They could be.

00:57:11
Matt: Yeah.

00:57:12
Pete: The other really important thing that I actually worked on

00:57:15
last night was creating a Houseboat Horror drinking game.

00:57:19
Matt: You're pissed, you must be .

00:57:22
Your face is all blurred.

00:57:27
Pete: And drinking games are really simple because you just

00:57:29
wait for things to happen and you take a drink, right.

00:57:31
So the ones I came up with is every is the title, the title

00:57:35
card, you've got to have a drink when the title card comes up,

00:57:38
because it's so good.

00:57:39
Every time you see somebody drinking or a can or a bottle of

00:57:43
VB, you got to have a drink.

00:57:44
When he flies buzzing, you got to have a drink.

00:57:47
Any time there's bongo drums being played, you have to drink.

00:57:54
Speaker 4: We were spokaneff with me, best friend.

00:58:00
Matt: Right here, I'm missing.

00:58:03
Pete: Any mention of the underground disco you have to

00:58:07
drink.

00:58:07
And then every mention of movie or film people you have to

00:58:13
drink.

00:58:13
Gavin Wood: All the time, do you ?

00:58:14
What worries?

00:58:15
Speaker 4: me about movie people .

00:58:17
Is they stuff up in them?

00:58:18
Gavin Wood: in their way.

00:58:19
Yeah, 40 teams of the same.

00:58:20
Yeah, it brings back memories that those movie killings a few

00:58:27
years back, yeah, they were making movies, they were film

00:58:32
people.

00:58:33
Pete: Any time animal seeks attention or his character seeks

00:58:37
attention and that one will get you very drunk because he does

00:58:40
it all the time.

00:58:41
Any mention of prior evil.

00:58:43
Or you hear any piece of the piece of music of the song Young

00:58:48
and Groovy.

00:58:49
If you hear a bit of that somewhere, because you hear that

00:58:51
a couple of times take a drink there, can you add any of that?

00:58:54
Can you think of any you want to add to that?

00:58:56
Matt: Any time there's, tell people to piss off or you know,

00:59:01
fuck off or anything like that have a drink Kessler.

00:59:07
Or when it's just something that is just not deemed safe at

00:59:19
all, like driving or coffees with no lids on it and just

00:59:24
stuff where you've got to think twice about it.

00:59:26
Or just scenes, just moments where it's like what are you

00:59:31
setting this up for?

00:59:32
Like, as I mentioned earlier, parts of that make sense where

00:59:36
he's just practicing chopping trees.

00:59:39
Gavin Wood: Just practicing, in case we need firewood.

00:59:43
Pete: But I actually that would be a good one Every time he says

00:59:45
he's just practicing chopping wood because there's three

00:59:47
drinks there.

00:59:48
Matt: Yeah Well, also brick phones.

00:59:53
Speaker 4: Sorry telecom.

00:59:53
Matt: Walk about phone thingies, yeah, so you see him every time

00:59:59
you see one in shot or being used drink oh oh, I'm in the

01:00:06
shit.

01:00:07
Pete: So let's let's move on and talk a bit about the Blu-ray,

01:00:10
because it's come out recently, because this movie I guess

01:00:14
sometimes on my podcast.

01:00:16
One of the things I'll talk about is where you can watch

01:00:19
this movie, right, and I don't think there's anywhere you can

01:00:22
watch this movie, which is going to make it very limiting to a

01:00:26
lot of people listening to the podcast trying to find the movie

01:00:29
if they don't want to buy the Blu-ray.

01:00:31
Like the great thing, no matter where you are in the world, all

01:00:34
the umbrella Blu-rays are all region free.

01:00:37
Even though they say region B on them, they're all region free

01:00:41
apparently.

01:00:41
So if you're in the US or wherever, you can just order off

01:00:45
their website and and it's it'll get it.

01:00:49
I don't think it's anywhere else Now.

01:00:51
I think there's probably a full version of this somewhere on

01:00:55
YouTube If you look, most likely probably not a great version,

01:00:59
it's probably your VHS or something, but that'll just add

01:01:03
to the add to the experience, right, but this is released.

01:01:07
I think it was released in June , right?

01:01:09
You can get mine too, a couple of weeks ago.

01:01:11
There's a standard Blu-ray, as you said, and there's a limited

01:01:14
edition set, and the limited edition set's got some really

01:01:16
cool lectures.

01:01:17
So there's 350 copies they made of that.

01:01:19
It's got a custom artwork slip case, which is quite nice.

01:01:23
It's got the little band in Queensland Pin.

01:01:25
It's got some art cards.

01:01:27
They kind of look like I guess almost like a lobby card, but

01:01:31
not quite.

01:01:32
It's got a reversible poster, which is really cool, and it's

01:01:36
got this great little 48 page book.

01:01:38
In some of the releases lately they've been releasing little

01:01:42
books and stuff and this booklet has clippings from the

01:01:48
newspaper articles or from fanzines.

01:01:52
It's got little production notes in it.

01:01:55
It's got just stuff about the Queensland you know the band in

01:02:01
Queensland movies and things like that.

01:02:02
It's really good.

01:02:03
Lots of special features right on the disc itself.

01:02:07
Did you have any special features that stuck out for you

01:02:10
on there besides the Late Show bit?

01:02:12
The Late Show bit is great.

01:02:14
Matt: Yeah, the Late Show bit is great, but I have to say I'm

01:02:17
disappointed in the quality on it.

01:02:19
So they've ripped it directly from YouTube.

01:02:22
But other than the Gavin Wood interview, which is good, and in

01:02:27
fact just beforehand I was listening to the commentary with

01:02:32
Tony Martin and the film historian Jarrett Gahan

01:02:36
Apologies if I've said his name incorrectly, but that was quite

01:02:40
informative as well, especially when Tony's admitting it's like

01:02:44
oh, I didn't have much to do with the movie other than talk

01:02:47
about it on the Late Show.

01:02:49
But the 30th anniversary Q&A the Monster Fest Q&A was really,

01:02:53
really cool and yeah, I haven't gone through all of them yet,

01:02:58
but ever since you know I don't want to take the steel your

01:03:02
thunder on this, but after you pointed out to me there was a,

01:03:07
there was an Easter egg in it I had a quick look at it.

01:03:10
Pete: And you found it.

01:03:11
Matt: I found it.

01:03:12
Pete: Yeah, so I'll spoil it In case you haven't found it,

01:03:16
because a lot of people have found it.

01:03:17
I think I posted something on the Umbrella Facebook site about

01:03:21
it and a few people look like they've found it.

01:03:23
Basically, if you go to the menus and you keep going to the

01:03:28
right until you come to the little blood drip at the end of

01:03:30
the knife on the main screen, then it takes you to like looks

01:03:35
like a student film that Oli Martin made or something called

01:03:38
the Dumbiner or the Dumberer or something.

01:03:40
Yeah, did you watch it?

01:03:42
Matt: I watched a bit of it and it's very arty and very weird.

01:03:45
Yeah.

01:03:49
It's because it's two guys yeah , a deaf guy or whatever going

01:03:51
around with talking and saying with headphones and stuff.

01:03:54
So yeah yeah, like I skimmed through a bit of it and he was a

01:03:58
bit.

01:03:59
He's either deaf or sensitive to particular sounds.

01:04:03
Yeah, yeah, because of his reactions to certain things.

01:04:07
So, yeah, I couldn't quite make heads or tails of it.

01:04:11
Pete: But that's very strange.

01:04:13
It looks like a student film because it's some of the cuts

01:04:16
have like different colored, like blackouts not blackouts but

01:04:20
colored outs.

01:04:21
Whatever the color is, there might be a blue one or a yellow

01:04:24
one or a red one, and I'm sure they all mean something.

01:04:27
But yeah, it's very strange.

01:04:31
Matt: I also watched as well the before and after, like the

01:04:36
restoration process.

01:04:38
Like they did the comparisons.

01:04:39
So while they did a decent job for what the source material was

01:04:44
, I figured, and the splicing of it, the way that they did it,

01:04:50
the comparisons, they kind of proved what I had thought the

01:04:55
entire time and there was some moments in it where the

01:04:58
restoration was too harsh.

01:05:00
So, like it looked like it was too burnt the color and when

01:05:05
they showed the part where the first victim of at the beginning

01:05:11
and when they showed the original footage, and then

01:05:16
there's it was, and on the other side of the screen it was the

01:05:20
restoration and the original footage.

01:05:23
You could see detail on her face and the color was a bit

01:05:28
washed and all that, but you could see, you know, specks or

01:05:31
freckles or anything like that.

01:05:32
On the restoration it was like it was airbrushed or too harsh.

01:05:38
Pete: Okay, yeah.

01:05:39
Matt: It was too bright, but that's just my observation for

01:05:41
being a bit OCD on that.

01:05:43
Pete: It's hard, though I think.

01:05:44
I think the problem really is the source material, right.

01:05:47
Matt: Yeah, so they they only could do what they could do with

01:05:49
it and they did a decent job for what?

01:05:52
Like yeah, directly, even though they got that disclaimer

01:05:56
saying it came from here and they had to upscale it.

01:05:58
Yeah and yeah, so credit to them for doing something with it

01:06:03
.

01:06:03
Pete: Yeah, no, it was good.

01:06:04
It was definitely a better experience than watching it.

01:06:07
You know, it would have been nice if they'd done like I think

01:06:11
they did with Razorback.

01:06:12
With their release of Razorback they had, like, the VHS release

01:06:16
as one of the extras.

01:06:18
Matt: Oh, okay.

01:06:19
Pete: Yeah, which would have been cool to see, like the

01:06:21
original release of it as one of the special features of the.

01:06:25
Matt: VHS copies are just like.

01:06:27
Should treat them like vinyl where it's got their warmth.

01:06:32
Pete: But yeah, so it's a good set.

01:06:34
It's definitely worth buying and you know it's a.

01:06:37
I guess.

01:06:37
To summarize my final thoughts on the film is fuck.

01:06:42
Speaker 4: I love it.

01:06:44
Matt: Well, I enjoyed it.

01:06:45
It was good to, but you gotta wait, watch it.

01:06:48
Wait a few years, watch it again and enjoy it with a stiff

01:06:53
drink.

01:06:54
Gavin Wood: Yes.

01:06:55
Matt: And with an open mind.

01:06:56
So just do not take it seriously and just appreciate

01:07:02
the quality, the underground disco quality.

01:07:08
Pete: And what happened to the underground disco?

01:07:10
Matt: That's a good question.

01:07:11
I'm not a Melbourneite or haven't been associated with

01:07:14
anything.

01:07:15
Someone can tell us.

01:07:16
Pete: Someone will tell us.

01:07:17
Someone from Melbourne tell us what happened to the underground

01:07:19
disco.

01:07:20
There you go.

01:07:20
I've asked for a few things in this podcast.

01:07:23
Matt: Please do.

01:07:24
And yeah, let us bar up.

01:07:26
Sorry, gavin Wood should really trademark that quote.

01:07:32
Pete: He really should.

01:07:33
Matt: Yeah, but yeah, other than that, like I enjoyed really

01:07:37
watching it and yeah it's, it's a treasure.

01:07:42
Pete: Yeah, I'll be honest, it's not a good movie, right, if you

01:07:45
, if I might have said it's great, I'm loving it.

01:07:47
It's not a good movie by any stretch of the imagination, but

01:07:52
it's kind of I don't know.

01:07:54
It's made with love, I think, and it's kind of like I don't

01:07:59
know.

01:07:59
It's one of those movies is just kind of like.

01:08:02
You like it because it's because it's corny.

01:08:06
It's before the time where they were like nudge, nudge, wink,

01:08:10
wink sharknado sort of thing.

01:08:13
You know what I mean.

01:08:14
Matt: Yeah.

01:08:14
Pete: It's like it's before the time of, like the oh, we know

01:08:18
this is going to be shit and we're going to play up to that

01:08:21
when this is just innocent shit.

01:08:23
Right yeah, and I think that's why, like, I would think that

01:08:28
this is more fun to watch than Sharknado, for that fact, oh,

01:08:32
imagine that there's a houseboat series, a trilogy or a

01:08:37
franchise and happens on different houseboats and

01:08:42
different lakes.

01:08:43
Matt: So you could maybe do like the houseboat, do a sequel of

01:08:49
houseboat horror and the houseboat the original houseboat

01:08:53
or one of them from the originals blows up or sinks or

01:08:56
whatever, and they use elements and the house, the murdered

01:09:01
houseboats, the fragments of it used to be incorporated into new

01:09:07
houseboats.

01:09:08
Yeah, I think I may have thought about that too much you

01:09:12
may have.

01:09:12
But yeah, it's been off into a franchise.

01:09:16
Pete: Yeah, absolutely, why not?

01:09:18
Matt: Houseboat franchise.

01:09:19
Pete: You could remake this movie with an iPhone and it

01:09:23
would look better than the movie the original movie.

01:09:28
Matt: Oh yes, Now, with today's technology, it's just yeah, you

01:09:31
could do that or you could film it, and but you have to use all

01:09:35
your apps and programs and like to lower the quality to match

01:09:38
the original.

01:09:40
Pete: You'd have to add all those filters, like you know,

01:09:42
yeah like a 1980s video filter or something and usually sent in

01:09:47
garage band.

01:09:48
Perfect, all right.

01:09:53
So that's houseboat horror.

01:09:55
What do you want to plug?

01:09:57
Let me know what you're doing.

01:09:58
I know you've got a cool website.

01:10:00
I only just discovered it recently.

01:10:02
Matt: Oh, I'm sorry.

01:10:02
You told me that that's fair.

01:10:05
Pete: Let us know what you're up to Let me know where you're up

01:10:07
to and where people can find you .

01:10:09
Matt: Sure, okay, as I mentioned previously, and I'm one who

01:10:14
doesn't like plugging too much of their own stuff, I like other

01:10:16
people plugging their own things.

01:10:17
That's all right, but all right , I was struck.

01:10:20
Pete: Like I said, you're not getting paid, so you might as

01:10:23
well plug something.

01:10:23
Matt: This is a big thrill, honestly.

01:10:25
So, yeah, champagne Comedy podcast and, yeah, that's

01:10:29
everything.

01:10:29
That's our working dog D-Gen late show.

01:10:33
At the time of this recording, we're reviewing frontline and

01:10:37
also having interviews and stuff like that.

01:10:38
So that's on all podcast platforms.

01:10:42
So that little thing.

01:10:43
And yeah, my website is my geek culturecomau, where it's just a

01:10:49
bit of majority of it's Australian nostalgia niche bits

01:10:54
and pieces.

01:10:55
There's something there for everyone and that's run by

01:10:58
myself and I've actually got a couple of interviews on there,

01:11:03
some podcasts just of, yeah, random bits and pieces.

01:11:06
So that might be something where you find in there and go

01:11:10
hey, I remember that TV show, like yeah, so just anything like

01:11:15
that.

01:11:15
Pete: You anywhere on the socials.

01:11:17
Matt: Oh plenty, twitter or whatever social media thing is

01:11:23
existing, whatever is still surviving.

01:11:25
You can contact me like I'm at mattfulltoncomau.

01:11:30
My website is mattfulltoncomau.

01:11:33
Yeah, so you can see all my back work of everything and

01:11:39
shameful photos of me rubbing shoulders with other big-notted

01:11:43
people like Brian Mates.

01:11:47
Pete: I know it'll terribly date the podcast eventually, but are

01:11:50
you on threads yet?

01:11:51
Matt: I actually my geek culture is, but not my personal one.

01:11:57
But I am on Instagram and like that.

01:11:59
We're the same username, mattfulltoncomau, so if you're

01:12:04
trying to find me with anything, it'll be basically my website

01:12:08
domain without the dots.

01:12:10
Pete: All right, Matt.

01:12:10
Well, thank you so much for coming on the show.

01:12:12
It's been really great having you on.

01:12:13
Matt: Peter, it is an absolute thrill, as I said a long time

01:12:19
listener, first time caller and what I and listeners, what

01:12:24
happened, how we met, is just yeah seriously my head just

01:12:31
exploded at the pub that we're at.

01:12:32
It was just like, oh my god.

01:12:34
Seriously, it's an absolute thrill to do this, and I'm glad

01:12:38
that there's more than one person out there who enjoys this

01:12:41
stuff as much as I do.

01:12:43
So I worship the ground you walk on mate, Please don't.

01:12:49
Pete: I'm not worth worshiping.

01:12:50
I'm a false god.

01:12:51
There's nothing wrong with that .

01:12:55
Matt: Hey, the podcast is magnificent, so keep on the

01:12:57
great work, mate.

01:12:58
Pete: Oh, thank you.

01:12:58
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01:13:54
Gavin Wood: Jimmy Costello, which is always the name.

01:13:57
If I ever went bust in radio and creditors were trying to

01:14:00
find me, I'd go over to Perth and get a job on radio there and

01:14:07
my name would be Jimmy Costello .

01:14:08
That was my alter ego.

01:14:11
Matt: Oh, wow.

01:14:12
So you got to play with that and be in your own little

01:14:15
imaginating world really playing that character.

01:14:18
Gavin Wood: Yeah, that was a lot of fun.

01:14:19
I mean that movie.

01:14:21
I mean people are still talking about it.

01:14:24
It's like countdown.

01:14:24
It was done with the best intentions and it was done with

01:14:29
heart.

01:14:29
That movie was done for $10 .

01:14:32
Wow, yeah, we got $10 out of the underground disco and it

01:14:38
paid for some of the crew.

01:14:42
I did it for nothing.

01:14:43
A lot of people did it for nothing.

01:14:46
They ran out of money for catering, so one day we got

01:14:50
lettuce sandwiches for lunch.

01:14:54
That's when we realized that things aren't going too well

01:14:56
here.

01:14:56
The director, kendall Flanagan, had a heart attack halfway

01:15:03
through and couldn't continue on , so so Ollie Martin had to

01:15:07
carry on and be the director.

01:15:09
It was a mess.

01:15:11
The film crew and the television crew it was kind of

01:15:15
half-half and the film crew hated the television crew

01:15:18
because the television crew were all falling down drunk and the

01:15:22
film crew were very professional .

01:15:24
There was just a lot of booze and I think we worked for booze

01:15:31
for two weeks up at the Elden.

01:15:32
We'd never made a movie before and I think just the idea of

01:15:39
making a movie was very romantic and we did it.

01:15:42
Goddammit, it all appeared that bad, but we did it.

01:15:45
Matt: The line that you're really known for in that movie

01:15:48
was saying the view's magnificent, you'll bar up.

01:15:51
Now was that an improv line or was that in the script?

01:15:55
Gavin Wood: No, it wasn't in the script.

01:15:56
They just said get up there and be excited about the view.

01:16:00
And I went oh god, okay.

01:16:01
I said hey, fellas girls, guys, come up here.

01:16:04
It's magnificent, the view's magnificent, you'll bar up.

01:16:08
And then they went perfect.

01:16:14
Matt: That is amazing.

01:16:16
Gavin Wood: And isn't it funny, just a simple little thing like

01:16:19
that stands out and remains part of the culture.

01:16:24
I think it's magnificent that this $10 movie is still

01:16:29
getting people talking about it.

01:16:31
It's quite amazing.

01:16:32
It was just controlled chaos and, as I said before, a lot of

01:16:38
VB.